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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 31 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

You can't put that on the women. Men have got to get their shit together. Just show a bit of empathy, bro! It's not that hard, humans are literally wired for it. It's just that capitalism is reinforcing humankind's worst impulses.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There is a whole industries to radicalize men. They try to get them hooked with "women don't want to date me" and get them on the social media conveyor belt towards becoming a good right wing radical that's immune to any logic.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Pick up scenes, and now right wing grifters sole job is to gather as much conservative voters as possible to sustain conservative governments.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Men have got to get their shit together. Just show a bit of empathy, bro! It’s not that hard, humans are literally wired for it.

There's a concept from the autism community called the double empathy problem which posits that counter to the mainstream narrative that people with autism are lacking/missing empathy, autistic people do have empathy. The theory suggests that the brains of autistic individuals processes information and stimuli so dramatically differently from 'neurotypical' people that neurotypical people are typically unable to accurately understand what is going on in the neurodiverse mind and vice versa. It suggests that empathy seems to most easily work neurodiverse-to-neurodiverse and neurotypical-to-neurotypical which to me makes sense.

Now there are certainly plenty of people in the modern world who seem unable to display any form of empathy, but this theory does highlight that empathy isn't a binary and depends on your ability to understand the mind of another.

There is no single way to be empathetic, and it is entirely possible that one person thinks they are being empathetic when in fact they are being antagonistic to the other. My point is that empathy can look different to different groups.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

You can’t put that on the women.

I wasn't putting it on the women. The idea that women can have personal preferences and prefer certain men over others is not "putting it on the women". I think that sort of interpretation is dangerous thinking, the sort of thing a person would say if they saw themselves as an "incel".

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago

So it's a societal issue rather than men not pulling their bootstraps enough?

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 12 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Absolutely don’t put that on women, but it is a mental illness so you can’t ask them to get their shit together they need help.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

mental illness is when you have actual disorder that is diagnosed bya proper physician, lonely is a mental illness

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

other men need to step in to provide the help they need

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Being the same sex as someone who needs help with mental health doesn't magically make you a qualified therapist/psychiatrist for them.

This is a ridiculous statement.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Lonely people need all sorts of help. Sometimes just having someone to talk to is enough. Plus, a lot of men have a hard time asking for help, especially for something as “unmanly” as loneliness. This can make someone offering help significantly more effective. Additionally, for a number of people, it’s just easier to open up to someone of the same sex.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

except t hey are opening in places where right wing groups fester, or they only do it with pick up groups, which reinforces thier insecurities.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago
  1. Yes, I was trying to be ambiguous with my statement since one of the definitions of the loneliness is men thinking they’re owed sex, and since women surely don’t owe them sex, other men are the only other logical option (which is indeed ridiculous)
  2. But I was also meaning that men are way too unsupportive and closed off with each other, and those who have the capacity would do the world a favor by being there as best we can for other men since the evidence seems to show we’ve been failing at this