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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they mean computerized interiors like infotainment systems. Probably not talking about ECU and internal computerized parts.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

But all displayed item from bottom panel is item from the 80s and 90s though, so precomputerised kinda either mean carburetor or primitive ecu that only control very limited function and can't scanned with a scanner tool, which is still imo bad. As an automechanic I certainly doesn't want to go back to scratching my head trying to figure out what's wrong.

Edit: not to be too pedantic about it, but that's what i get from this comic.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Pre-telemetry cars from the naughties are the sweet spot. No cell connection either. New cars are icky.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

telemetry ... cell connection

When did this start to be a standard feature anyhow, and how does adoption track across brands & timeline?

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

There were a few sites that tracked manufacturer adoption of when the telemetry black boxes got installed, but I cannot find the specific ones I referenced a few years ago. You can “shop” for telemetry insurance and check that way too. The car won’t be eligible if it doesn’t have the hardware.

[–] crater2150@feddit.org 4 points 14 hours ago

In the EU, cars have to be equipped with automatic emergency call systems since 2018. So probably since then most brands will have had it, as they are required to have cell connection hardware anyway.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

On one hand, firmware update sound really nice so lemon isn't as sour. On the other hand, good, reliable car have absolutely 0 chance of getting enshittified by car maker, and they have to make sure the thing is good from the get go or risk getting forced to recall.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

I agree the examples are all over the place.