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[–] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Soap was invented a long time ago - 2800 BC and the Romans made quite a bit of it. However it used lye so you wouldn't want to use it often.

The sanitation of Roman cities should have been pretty good by historical standards. Batthouses were common in the empire and people frequently visited them. Romans also had toilets with running water below them to take the waste away so in that regard they would have done much better than other societies.

The sewer system or lack thereof was the biggest sanitation issue for most historical cities. Back in the day it was difficult to create a sewer system since you need to minimize the slope at which the waste flows or else you have to do too much digging. Until Newton and Leibniz came around in the 1700s we didn't have calculus so you couldn't optimize a function mathematically and instead had to experimentally test it out. But, people didn't test things the way we do today - the scientific method was only formalized relatively recently as well. So this was more difficult to invent that you might think, and the invention has been lost several times over history.

Then once you figure out the minimum angle you have to discover a technique to dig at that angle. The simplest is to take two sticks and insert them into the ground, then tie a string between them that lies right on the ground. Then you can put the sticks this anywhere to see how deep you need to dig.

Since you mentioned 1500-1800, I'll mention that medieval London did NOT have a sewer system so people dumped their waste in the River Thames. Which is also where they got their drinking water.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago

And yet we stopped building public baths. We need to bring it back.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

thanks, this answer deserves an award

yeah, sanitation is really important, and it's easy to understand that once you consider that our shit is literally 25% live bacteria by mass. that's more than a trillion, idk even what the name for numbers that big is. for bacteria, the quantity of bacteria you ingest plays a role (i think) in how dangerous the disease is that you catch, so if you eliminate the biggest source of bacteria, that reduces diseases a lot

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

It might also be important to mention that history isn't a line up. Yeah sanitation was great in Rome, but it had taken a nose dive by the time the empire fell and the Dark Ages in Europe started.