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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 111 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's crazy how close to full on authoritarianism the US has become in only 7 months.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago

It’s not all that crazy since they had a carefully designed scheme all planned out in Project 2025. People acted like that was some kind of conspiracy theory, but they literally printed it up. 🤬

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stay tuned. It's going to get much worse before the American people actually do something about it.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Even then I doubt Americans will do much. We’re not a smart bunch.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Americans were like that during the Bush years. Illegal wars, torture, inept cronyism.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

This is not even close to the same thing as the Bush years.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The veneer of respectability is gone. 250 years of slavery, 100 of segregation, COINTELPRO, overthrowing democratically elected governments across Latin America, the Red Scare, 'Regime Change', the Patriot Act etc. This has always been an authoritarian country controlled by the wealthy. Trump just stopped pretending to be anything else.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago

This post deserves more attention. It's disappointing how short people's memory is and how few can see the bigger picture. It didn't start with Trump and it's not going to end with him. I like to think of this administration like a comic relief that's not very funny.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

The current regime is just the next step in authoritarian fascism from the Trump era. Democrats should have arrested and exposed all the criminals but they prefer neoliberal economics and performative actions over justice.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

What's new is that an American politician uses all the dirty tricks on the US itself instead of a country on the other side of the globe.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I kind of excused some of that due to societal PTSD from 9/11 but in retrospect around half of Americans just fucking suck.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

societal PTSD from 9/11

I feel 9/11 was less of a "we were struck by the ravages of war" and more of a "how dare they shoot back" event. If it was like the bombing of London by the Nazis, that makes most people reluctant to go to war instead of making war popular.

I mean, who looks at 9/11 and says "we want more of this"? Apparently most Americans?

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 6 points 10 hours ago

It was revenge for making Americans feel vulnerable. Two oceans and the world's strongest military made Americans feel safe from the world (and the effects of U.S. policies toward it). Even national humiliations like losing the Vietnam War were things that happened "out there." Domestic resistance to the invasion of Iraq often took the form of "Why Iraq when we should be going after the people responsible for 9/11 instead?" Resistance to the invasion of Afghanistan was much more muted for this reason. It was only later that everyone was always against both wars.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One could see how bloodthirsty they were as soon as they saw the opportunity to have extrajudicial punishment and the opportunity to kill a lot of brown people.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

i was in college in utah. people at there were openly talking in the lunchroom about how excited they were to kill muslims. every time i'd challenge that narrative dozens of people would shout it down. it was disgusting.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works -2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

1/4 to 1/3 at most. Remember most eligible voters don't vote.

EDIT: it's also worth noting that many can't vote. Like voting day not being a public holiday and they cant get off work, mail-in not being available, public transport not being free on voting day, or simply being purged from voting rolls.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

Remember most eligible voters don’t vote.

Voter turnout in the 2024 election was 63.7%. That's still a lot of folks who didn't vote, but it's not "most."

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

But of the total adult population, only a minority votes. 63.7% is only of the registered voters.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 1 points 38 seconds ago

I got the number from this page: https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election

which lists it as "eligible voters," which is in turn based on data from here: https://election.lab.ufl.edu/2024-general-election-turnout/

which discusses the methodology:

The denominator for these VEP turnout rates is constructed by estimating the voting-age population or VAP (everyone age 18 and older residing in the United States). Ineligible populations are subtracted from the VAP consisting of non-citizens and felons (depending on state disenfranchisement laws). Eligible overseas voters are added to the national VEP estimates only as no reliable method exists to apportion these eligible voters to states.

So no, it's not just registered voters. It's their best estimate of how many people are old enough and not disqualified.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not voting when the stakes are this high is as shitty as voting for Trump. Plus approval statistics don't care if you voted or not.

If anything, more than half of Americans suck at this point.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's also worth noting that many americans are prevented from voting. Cannot get time off work, polling station too far, mail in not available, purged from voter roll.

It's still crazy to me that voting day is not a public holiday in the US and that all public transport is not free on that day.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

In France voting day is always a Sunday to prevent issues like this. It seems very anti-democratic to not make sure that almost all the voting population can find the time for it.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

His poll numbers are still in the 40s

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

No, Bush and Trump are not alike. Bush at least had some principles. Temp has none

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bush is an international war criminal and a US criminal by lying to congress to start multiple wars.

The fact that America didn’t have the balls to arrest its previous criminals only allowed the next set of criminals to take it even further.

America is a land full of subservient serfs that want an authoritarian figure to rule over them. They don’t even care if their master is a child rapist.

[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

I mean, at least he went to congress. You’re right though.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

No, Bush just had some decorum. Trump is also taking advantage of the weakening of institutions and norms that occurred during the Bush administration.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 5 points 23 hours ago

“Now watch this drive”