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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I keep running into this problem where I hear about this conservative intellectual and I go to read their work. I know I'm not going to agree with them, but let me find the flaw or where our values diverge in their argument.

When I gloss it, I'll assume the problem is me when i fail to find that spot. So I do a closer, more serious reading of their work. Still don't see it. Again. Fail. Again. Fail. Again.fsil.failfsilfisjl.

These "intellectuals" are people who haven't read widely, haven't practice developing ideas, and don't know how to write a structured argument.These fuckers were "STEM" smart from a young age, probably without much effort, got accolades from everyone about how smart they were, and thought the liberal arts were a joke. And honestly, until advanced high school classes, they often are. Because before that age, your brain lacks the skills and data to do it at all.

Their combined rhetorical strength lies in misleading statements, provocations, and hiding their true intent behind mealy mouth pseudo intellectualism. At least Yarvin will come out and say he wants feudalism. Fuck Jordan Peterson in particular. I am worse off for ever having tried to comprehend his thinking. I'm not sure who else sucks in this day and age, but I include Theil, bronze age pervert, and the CEO of Palintar. All, I believe, have advanced degrees in the liberal arts.

This isn't to say that there aren't conservatives worth reading and disagreeing with, but the surface is polluted.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I genuinely don’t understand how Peterson has a PhD. I’ve listened to his lectures and they are just pointless garbage. He squints at Jung, comes up with this manicheanism where men = order women = disorder and just verbal diarrheas from there.

I’ve only had a little formal education in psychology, but enough that people have paid me to teach it, and I don’t understand how anyone in the field could be impressed.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world -4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Jorge Hirsch, the creator of the h-index asserts that a “successful scientist” will have an h-index of 20 after 20 years; an “outstanding scientist” will have an index of 40 after 20 years; and a “truly unique individual” will have an index of 60 after 20 years or 90 after 30 years. Jordan Peterson has an h-index of 57.

His academic work had been cited well over 10,000 times before he became a publicly-known figure in 2016.

He obviously isn't a quack in the field of psychology, by any objective measure.

Yes exactly, there is more nuance to a person than just right and wrong

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