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[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Im no miltary strategist. But shouldnt submarine operations be.... like secret?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 11 hours ago

IMHO what Trump writes about is just business as usual. Standard posturing (both literally and figuratively) that is happening anyhow all the time on all sides. Anyhow, all it says is "appropriate positions", so I counter: shouldn't military submarines always be in "appropriate positions"?

Normally you wouldn't ~~tweet~~ ~~truth~~ lie about something like that at all. My guess is one of his PR people thought a little fearmongering might distract from other issues...

[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember back when Trump got caught with all those classified docs there was a story about him showing off some about submarines to a rich Australian dude. There was a comment about how everyone in the navy knows that you do not talk about subs. Everything about them is top secret, and if it were anyone else there would be very severe consequences.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. Also, happy cake day!

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Boomers (ballistic missile subs) whole raison d'etre is to be the most powerful weapon platform of all time, be anywhere, be undetectable. MAD is predicated on not knowing from where the punch might come. Trump just said, "Sup bitch! We put boomers in your back yard and we're not afraid to use them!"

Of all the shit Trump has done, this makes my Gen X gut drop. He's playing with world-ending apocalypse. The height of the Cold War didn't see nation states fuck around like this. Never in my life, or history as I know it, has an American President or Soviet/Russian leader stated anything so provocative.

Hadn't been too worried about Russia's nuclear arsenal, but it exists and Ruskies are paranoid bastards. This isn't brinksmanship, nor Nixon's madman theory, this is a toddler poking a rabid dog with a stick. And that dog is already starving, ravening and scared shitless.

"Yeah, we have subs in the Pacific and Eastern Med. I know it. You know it. But now I'm telling you, telling the world." That's a fucking threat. In diplomatic terms this states, "Blink and I'll fucking end you."

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Never in my life, or history as I know it, has an American President or Soviet/Russian leader stated anything so provocative.

https://youtu.be/CFCABnWlN8E

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago

Considering this, I would normally treat anything said about secret weapons a bluff. But given who's talking, I've no way to tell if it's stupidity instead

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

What should be a secret? That nuclear (propulsion or arms?) submarines are in appropriate regions? I should hope that that is always the case.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

It's like Israel's nuclear capability. They got nukes. I know it. You know it. But in diplomatic terms, no one says it out loud. In diplomatic-speak, this is a fucking in-your-face threat.

Put it this way, in diplo-speak "condemn" means, "We fittin' to throw down! SOON!" This threat is an order of magnitude above "condemn".

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

I wonder if that means he ordered them to be in the same places they were already planning to be...