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Presumably, there is some kind of way I can work around it, I saw something about clearing the cache because of stored failures of handshaking, but it seems like on the whole maybe it is time to start fuckin' with Peertube or something instead.

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[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I stopped paying the very second they looped in Google play music. I have zero need for a bundle, YouTube. Zero. Give me my cheap ad removal back for your already exorbitant rate. I know you're not making more than a quarter a month off of even the users watching every ad.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago (4 children)

YTM has basically always been bundled with premium. They recently raised the prices for grandfathered users but at the time the YTM bundle was introduced the premium price did not increase IIrc.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It did increase the price, it went from 7.99 to 12.99 in my area with a brief "grandfather" period they were very quick to remove. It was also not called YouTube music at the time but Google play music. They also used to have a feature that allowed you to upload your own library of music for streaming along side their digital library which they removed with the switch to YouTube music. Very annoying because you could manually patch the holes in their licensing agreements, include local unknown bands in your library, and edits or mixes of songs you preferred. It was a dark time at the Google graveyard that hit me so hard I switched to iPhone.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes I know what Google play music was, I used it in HS...I also have had premium since it was launched as YT red. I don't recall the price ever being $8 though. It was $10 at launch and it's always included the music for that price. The hike to $14 had nothing to do with music. I'm in the US though so maybe regions are different? I had my $10 price for years after the price increase...only somewhat recently did they bump me to the new price.

I did some looking online and red launched alongside YTM for $10/mo in October 2015.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm in the US as well, Iowa. Youtube premium no ads was $7.99 at launch. Eventually they bundled in gpm and increased it to 12.99 at which point I canceled. This was just prior to the rollout of ytm. If they A/B tested my area I've no idea, but I'm not incorrect. I literally just checked my email receipt.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, I don't know then, this is super odd because here's the wayback for the launch of YT red and it says $10/mo with GPM included. The earlier pages archived all say "coming soon" and this time frame lines up with wikipedia's launch date as well as the prices listed on wikipedia. I really don't understand what's going on here then https://web.archive.org/web/20151031015519/youtube.com/red

EDIT: I just went and found my sign up confirmation from 8/1/2017 and the price was $10/mo and included YTM

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