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[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I couldn't stand Discovery at all. All of the crying and emotional break-downs ruined it for me. It felt like watching a high school drama where the whole being in space part was just a backdrop. (13 Reasons Why: In Space!)

SNW feels like it's trying to do the opposite by being quirky and just taking it too far. A high school rom-com rather than a full blown drama, if you will. (Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: With Aliens!)

As someone who's been watching Trek for 40+ years. These new shows just don't feel like Star Trek anymore. The franchise has been co-opted into... something else.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

The wedding planner alien was the most TOS episode they've had yet. There were tons of goofy episodes like that. TNG s1e3 the naked now, which was a callback to TOS's The Naked Time.

Those episygave us "I am fully functional" and "Oh My" respectively.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I actually enjoyed the premise of the wedding planner episode. Again, I just think they take it too far ~~sometimes~~ most of the time.

spoilerAs a lore nerd (probably the only reason I still watch tbh) I loved that they finally confirmed Trelane was an early (younger) evolution of the Q, for example.
And I'll give you the fact that TOS was a bit strange and I'm fine with episodes showing homage. But think about it, that show only ran for 3 seasons and when it was rebooted in 1979 for the movies (and later with TNG) it took itself a lot more seriously. Especially once Wesley was gone on TNG.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I get it. I hated neelix for a very long time. I think part of what you're picking up on is classic episodic arc pacing. Before streaming, shows would put light episodes in between the heavy ones (the heavy ones usually being the ones that drove the arc). Since it was all episodic, the disjunction didn't matter. SNW feels like they're playing into that, whereas Disco was ALL RED ALERT ALL THE TIME WE CAN LAUGH WHEN WERE DEAD. (The only thing I truly disliked about Disco).

and since SNW is bingeable, the silly episodes feel a lot more prevalent

(IMHO)

(I loved the singing episode)

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You're probably right, they also had the mid-season breaks back then. Which really slowed the pacing down. So even when watched weekly now, you don't get to digest it all the same way.

Like the recent Gorn episodes. Those would have been the mid-season finale & premiere on the older shows.

PS - I still hate Neelix... with a passion. I literally dread every scene with him during every rewatch. They should have seriously just shot him out of the airlock in episode 3. And B'Elanna to a lesser extent (she acted like a spoiled child, not an angry Klingon).

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Your thoughts mirror my own a lot. Early B'Elanna was rough. She mellowed out a little later in the show 😆

Weirdly, nowadays it's Chkotay that makes me cringe, knowing what I know now about how his character was cobbled together by a racist scam artist memalpha link

I had a friend with a trauma-riddled past who identified with Neelix. He said he saw a lot of his own past struggles in the character, and that watching him go from bumbling joke to competent team member instilled a kind of hope. Turned my perspective around on him.

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