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“Neutrality Won’t Save Us”: Austria Reconsiders NATO Membership Amid Rising Russian Threat
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this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2025
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Will you blame Russia for its crimes?
And yours? Is your view on NATO or Russia shaped by propaganda?
You stated out of the blue that NATO must be pressuring Austria. No proof, no connection to the article. I consider this a try to derail and to spin.
You offer no arguments. You're being disproven and your only answer is "yea, but still no". So it's irrelevant.
I very much hope the same won't happen to Austria. As it is only happening to Ukraine because we desperately try to save it from Russian destruction despite all the indescribable harm it is suffering since 2022. No country wants this to happen to them, no country will take the risk. This is why Austria wants this discussion. It is beyond me how anyone cannot understand this, although I'm coming to the conclusion that this is less a "can" problem but more a "want" problem.
Yes, from you. I am not saying that Austria will be attacked by Russia, even though I kind of say it. This feels like an argument with AI.
Don't try to make your argument mine. It is only you that tries to narrow this on an attack on Austria in order to disprove the necessity of an Austrian membership. I told you what the actual security gains for Austria can be in NATO and those are irrespective of a Russian attack on Austria. So are we finally done with this idea?
And btw, still curious:
Will you blame Russia for its crimes?
No. Where is the gain if Ukraine also has it?
There is no other threat for Austria.
They are guilty of their crimes. If I blame them don't I imply that somebody else is guilty but I put the blame on Russia?
Ukraine is in the middle of a war. Austria wants these gains before Russia sends hundreds of thousands of troops across the border and massacres villages and bombs cities. Is that really so hard to understand?
I don't oppose that Russia is a threat to Austria. I oppose that the benefit of an Austrian NATO membership comes only in effect in case of a Russian attack on Austria. And I explained to you why.
What's hard for me to understand is that you don't understand that Austria would be fighting that war in Poland and Slovacia.
Again: this isn't about Austria fighting a war. Can you understand that?
It is about gaining security benefits before a war breaks out.
No, I don't understand. The security benefits are for that one specific war. It's the same.
The security benefits come into effect without/before Russia actually attacking.
So does the war before attacking Austria.
It's essentially the same.
It is not. The benefits come into effect even before the war itself.
That doesn't matter strategically.
Why wouldn't it?