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on the male loneliness epidemic (infosec.pub)

submitted 3 days ago by carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/curatedtumblr@sh.itjust.works

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when i first heard about the male loneliness epidemic i was like oh yeah close camaraderie and bonding between men is often discouraged in favor of competition or, if not discouraged, at least filtered through a lens of individualism that precludes deep connections. and then i learned what people meant by it (men arent getting laid) to which i say skill issue

to all the men out there not getting laid: try less hard to get laid and try more hard to be an enjoyable and relaxing presence

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[+] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today -6 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Also generalities are bad.

Lol..... Gonna let that one steep and see if you spot the contradiction in that.

people started saying that people with specific traits that you specifically share were always bad people in some way, it would bother you.

Not if the trait itself was a valid criticism. All pedophiles are bad.....is that a bad generality to you?

myself am not really a guy who is bad with women anymore (I'm not rolling in pussy but I can get around) but I used to be painfully bad about it and I know I wasn't some awful person worthy of scorn and disdain because of that. I wasn't some loser sociopath for wanting sex with women when I wasn't getting any.

Again, this is a strawman argument. No one is claiming that all lonely men are incels..... They were specifically talking about people with the idea of a male loneliness epidemic. An ideology that is utilized to radicalize young men by right winged influencers.

That said... them saying they're done with dating doesn't mean they're bad people either. Just like women don't owe them sex, these men also don't owe women their time and effort.

It also doesn't make them part of the loneliness epidemic. If it wasn't about sex then they would just focus on building healthy relationships with friends. If they are making a conscious decision to not pursue sex then why are they upset?

There is cognitive dissonance occuring here where people are claiming that it's not about sex, but then being hysterical about not being able to find a partner.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Not if the trait itself was a valid criticism. All pedophiles are bad…is that a bad generality to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_Pedophiles

Acting on it is bad obviously.

Thing is, I also don't believe in good/evil or free will. As a result I categorically reject virtue ethics anyway so IDK how meaningful discussing this further can be.

They were specifically talking about people with the idea of a male loneliness epidemic. An ideology that is utilized to radicalize young men by right winged influencers.

The male loneliness epidemic isn't strictly a "rightwing ideology". Incel/redpill is rightwing ideology.

There is also a female loneliness epidemic. Though its fairly different in nature.

If it wasn’t about sex then they would just focus on building healthy relationships with friends.

I never said that sex wasn't an important component of the issue.

If they are making a conscious decision to not pursue sex then why are they upset?

You aren't this dumb. You know exactly why they'd still be upset. They would be making the conscious decision because they are trying to seek a sliver of personal peace after a period of failure or simply because of disillusionment with heterosexual dating. Its not like they'd be making that decision and feel content that they're going to live without a sexual or romantic partner. They're trying to avoid the pain of the process of seeking it, they'd still want a partner.

Have you never seen someone so attractive to you that it physically HURT? I have. Literal physical chronic pain. And once I established they lacked any mutual romantic interest in me I avoided them like the plague and tried to forget they existed as best as possible, which was hard because I worked in the same building. Thank fuck I don't work there anymore.

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You aren't this dumb.

this person is a low-rent troll with delusions of grandeur. look at their other comments in the thread. example after example of trash-tier baiting while thinking they are oh so clever.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think they're primarily authentic rather than trolling/pretending, its just that they have twitter/bluesky disease where they think the best way to engage is by vapidly dunking.

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