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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your mistaken. Pride day began as a riot. MLK may have advocated for non-aggressive protesting, but Malcom X was pivotal. India and women certainly didn’t win rights through capitulation to the oppressors. Gandhi may not have been violent, but he promoted civil disobedience. You sound exactly like the kind of person MLK warns about.

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

You want people to “reach across the isle” and to try and win people over who have no intention of being agreeable or receptive towards a mutually beneficial outcome and would negotiate in bad faith.

You can say but look at how peaceful the gays, blacks, women, India, etc were but that’s the idealistic textbook view of history after all is said and done. It ignores the real struggle and fight it took by those groups to win rights by being impossible to ignore. You’re either incredibly naive or arguing disingenuously.