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when i first heard about the male loneliness epidemic i was like oh yeah close camaraderie and bonding between men is often discouraged in favor of competition or, if not discouraged, at least filtered through a lens of individualism that precludes deep connections. and then i learned what people meant by it (men arent getting laid) to which i say skill issue

to all the men out there not getting laid: try less hard to get laid and try more hard to be an enjoyable and relaxing presence

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago (6 children)

You've literally just explained what the male loneliness epidemic is and its causes. It's why it's specific to men and a women not understand the nuance here is no diffeeent the people not understanding toxic masculinity.

There is actually some overlap in these two issues and it's one of those rare moments where it's women who need to shut up and listen because it's not about them.

The loneliness epidemic is not a personal attack on women anymore than toxic masculinity is an attack on men. Ultimately, the loneliness epidemic is about reduce the male suicide rate. Anyone who takes it as any attack is misinformed and borders on a self absorbed asshole. Might as well just tell these men to kill themselves.

The solution isn't for women to be more promiscuous because that doesn't fix the problem and isn't what anyone is suggesting is regards to this issue.

Casual sex does not cure loneliness for the majority of men. It may offer temporarily relief but even this isn't true for all men.

[–] Eccentric@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The question I posited was: if all signs point to men and women having equal amounts of sex, why is there no "female loneliness epidemic" but there is a "male loneliness epidemic"? I posit that the reason we think of sex as a benefit for male loneliness therefore can't be quantity of sex but men must be getting something from sex that women either don't need or are getting elsewhere. Since scientific evidence points toward gender differences being social and not innate, there must be something women are doing different socially that leads us to think of men as a population as in need of sex or intimate relationships but not women. I'm presenting a neutral logical argument here by way of discarding illogical conclusions, not accusing anyone of anything or implying that the comment above me was accusing women of being too promiscuous. I just wanted to ask the question of why are straight men lonely but straight women not lonely even though logically the two populations must be dating and having sex at approximately equal rates

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes they responded to and expounded on that point... Did... did you even comprehend their post?

[–] Eccentric@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh yeah you're right. I thought they were being sarcastic at points where I see they weren't. Sorry about that

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