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It was an example of it conceptually it wasn't meant to be a serious generality obviously.
Also generalities are bad. If people started saying that people with specific traits that you specifically share were always bad people in some way, it would bother you.
Further, you can be bothered even if you are emotionally secure about yourself. Its not always even "taking it personally" because sometimes people have empathy for people who are like them but aren't them and dislike seeing them thrown under the bus.
I myself am not really a guy who is bad with women anymore (I'm not rolling in pussy but I can get around) but I used to be painfully bad about it and I know I wasn't some awful person worthy of scorn and disdain because of that. I wasn't some loser sociopath for wanting sex with women when I wasn't getting any.
And neither are lonely sad sexless guys. I don't like them being mocked because I've been there and I know that it doesn't help to be mocked for a "skill issue" anyway. Mocking them sends them further into a self loathing or hateful spiral. Telling them to be better people implies they are bad people for not having sex or having a girlfriend.
Its like telling fat people they're fat: it doesn't actually help. It usually makes them give up.
That said... them saying they're done with dating doesn't mean they're bad people either. Just like women don't owe them sex, these men also don't owe women their time and effort. Its perfectly morally fine to be done with dating women forever. It wont be pleasant for the guys who try TBH, but its morally fine.
Now, are some of these guys pieces of shit? Sure, but that doesn't relate to their sexlessness. Absolute pieces of trash have sex with hotties and it doesn't suddenly make them good people either.
Lol..... Gonna let that one steep and see if you spot the contradiction in that.
Not if the trait itself was a valid criticism. All pedophiles are bad.....is that a bad generality to you?
Again, this is a strawman argument. No one is claiming that all lonely men are incels..... They were specifically talking about people with the idea of a male loneliness epidemic. An ideology that is utilized to radicalize young men by right winged influencers.
It also doesn't make them part of the loneliness epidemic. If it wasn't about sex then they would just focus on building healthy relationships with friends. If they are making a conscious decision to not pursue sex then why are they upset?
There is cognitive dissonance occuring here where people are claiming that it's not about sex, but then being hysterical about not being able to find a partner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtuous_Pedophiles
Acting on it is bad obviously.
Thing is, I also don't believe in good/evil or free will. As a result I categorically reject virtue ethics anyway so IDK how meaningful discussing this further can be.
The male loneliness epidemic isn't strictly a "rightwing ideology". Incel/redpill is rightwing ideology.
There is also a female loneliness epidemic. Though its fairly different in nature.
I never said that sex wasn't an important component of the issue.
You aren't this dumb. You know exactly why they'd still be upset. They would be making the conscious decision because they are trying to seek a sliver of personal peace after a period of failure or simply because of disillusionment with heterosexual dating. Its not like they'd be making that decision and feel content that they're going to live without a sexual or romantic partner. They're trying to avoid the pain of the process of seeking it, they'd still want a partner.
Have you never seen someone so attractive to you that it physically HURT? I have. Literal physical chronic pain. And once I established they lacked any mutual romantic interest in me I avoided them like the plague and tried to forget they existed as best as possible, which was hard because I worked in the same building. Thank fuck I don't work there anymore.
this person is a low-rent troll with delusions of grandeur. look at their other comments in the thread. example after example of trash-tier baiting while thinking they are oh so clever.
I think they're primarily authentic rather than trolling/pretending, its just that they have twitter/bluesky disease where they think the best way to engage is by vapidly dunking.