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[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's a shame Biden was "too decent" 🙄 to get it done while he was there - the whole election could have gone a another (better) way.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The age of consent was seen as nothing more than a technicality until relatively recently. I'd be shocked if the list didn't include a large number of prominent democrats as well as the usual suspects from the republican party. Also most wealthy donors to both parties. The Epstein files are going to be full of rich people, because the rich think they're untouchable and always embrace their worst impulses if given the opportunity. Political affiliation is irrelevant.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if they were 18+, I thought the thing was that they were trafficked/raped? Even if an "Epstein girl" was 21, that doesn't necessarily absolve the people that had relations/raped/abused/etc. her. I haven't kept up with the case so don't know the details. Plus after the whole pizza gate and save the children fiasco it can be difficult to really sort out which parts are legitimate and which parts are conspiracy, so I haven't dug much.

I'm only really responding to the "age of consent is a technicality" thing. Not that statutory rape shouldn't be viewed as rape, but I don't think these were scenarios of older people and minors having otherwise "consensual" sex.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Oh I am in no way excusing statutory rape. Dirty little fuckers need some jail time for what they did. All I'm saying is that rich people in the 80s and 90s where waaaaay more likely to get away with it because the people enforcing didn't really care. So they were more likely to actually do it.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've no doubt that's the case (e.g. Clinton's likely in there, for example), although I expect it's a ratio much like then FBI director Wray during Trump's first term testified regarding propensity towards politically-inspired violence: more than twice as likely to be conservatives doing it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i dont think that wouldve affect magats votes one way or another, biden/trump was most invested in protecting thier donors who are on the list and other politicians, both US and foreign.

Considering the major infighting that's been going on the past few weeks, I can't help but disagree. They may have tried sticking together more than they are now for the sake of winning the election, but there might have been just enough friction to sway things if Trump was proven to have been on the list.

As far as protecting donors, they are going to be found out sooner or later anyway - what better way to bury it than by the distraction of it ensnaring a presidential candidate? By the time things got around to them, everybody would be sick of the subject anyway.

Doesn't really matter. The assholes along their enablers and sycophants have done incredible damage to the country in just six months - it's already barely recognizable as the great country it once was, and I've little hope it'll survive another 3.5 years of this disaster. This whole Epstein thing has been the first time there's been any hope of putting an end to the destruction before it's too late - let me fantasize.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dunno, was "the Island" part of the US? Cause if not, he would just tell his supporters it was fake news. They never cared about his character anyway.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, they absolutely care about his character. They love that he's an unapologetic monster.

If Trump was a decent, upstanding human, they'd hate him.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I honestly haven't wanted to know the details of the whole sordid affair enough to answer that question, although I can't see how that would matter even if what they did was technically legal wherever it was.

No, most of his voters never cared about his character, but a small percentage were more moderate Republicans for whom such things actually do matter (they're true believers in "the conservative way") - possibly just enough to have swayed things.