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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Pardons should be reserved solely for crimes against the state or crimes committed in service to eh state. Crimes against individuals by other individuals should not be pardonable.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Normally the function of pardoning was self-regulating in that the media would exscoriate any President who did it in such an abusive way and the electorate would punish them and their party accordingly at the ballot box.

But corruption has become normalized and media has been completely hijacked by billionaires that reality isn't so clear cut as it once was.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

This plus a lot of shit used to fly under the radar before they realized it's safe for them to grift openly.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Reality is still clear cut people just choose to ignore it.

[–] TheCleric@lemmy.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well, I dunno. Pardons are good when the justice system fails and locks up innocent people for decades. The burden of proof on appeals is set so high that the appeals system is broken in and of itself. Think about all the racially motivated prosecutions throughout the years, the unjustly prosecuted anarchists, the bribed juries, the kangaroo court shenanigans, etc. How many stories have we heard of cops badgering the wrong person for dozens of hours in interrogation until they got false confessions? All because cops’ egos are so absurd that they refuse to admit they might have come to the wrong conclusions with incomplete information. I’m all for pardons in crimes against individuals. The problems isn’t in the case structure, it’s in the person doling out the pardons.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

unfortunately presidential pardons have almost no restrictions, except a few. of course the republican congress wont stop trump.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The biggest limit is it can only apply to federal crimes. I'm sure Diddy had to have broken some state crimes in all that.