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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Overly scared

A curious term. We knew what we had to do a long time ago, but didn't.

Now that we're on a likely terminal path, we're suddenly willing to try unknown, unproven radical treatments and the only comfort we have is that without such radical interventions we're already dead, so there is very little left to lose.

Edit: I'm not so much against SRM as I am disapointed we didn't do the right things when we could have.

Well, I feel better now don't you?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we’re suddenly willing to try unknown, unproven radical treatments

Who;s that "we"? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

Nobody asked me, or any of us. It's just another top-down phony "solution" pushed by the fossll-fuel industry to deflect attention from stopping greenhouse pollution at its source.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Well no. It's actually a desperate hail mary. Everything is an excuse to keep oil going, but SRM is legitimate science. Just reckless as fuck.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Funny thing about an adrenaline rush, is sometimes it increases your co-ordination, strength, and decision-making skills. Not everyone panics and does their best to impede anyone trying to actually triage and fix the situation.

Mean-while, these people are scientists, trying to execute a, frankly, small-scale expiriment to confirm what we already know from an accidental, world-spanning expiriment that was already done over decades. They are trying to do so in a way that, at worst, will do no harm.

... but no, you're right, nimby-ism will save us all.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Save us all? Now who is delusional.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Way to miss the sarcasm. I'll take just about anything between the billionaire's goal of killing not-quite-everyone(which we keep telling them will result in their deaths too, because they are idiots, demonstrating their idiocy by wanting this), and saving everyone.

OBVIOUSLY, I don't expect saving everyone to be an option, but trying is better than the doomer option of saving no-one. Mind you, we're long past the point where many endangered plants and animals could be saved without our help, just in case you wanna play the "but we deserve to die" card.

Agreeing we deserve to die doesn't mean we are allowed to just give up and take down even more entire eco-systems with us.