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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You do realize that nearly every modern genocide has been predicated on the idea that an ethnicity is suitably composed of criminal elements to warrant the extermination of a significant proportion of its members, right?

If your claim is "We're going to kill a third of the population of Israel and explicitly liken it to Hitler's Final Solution, but it's not genocide", I fucking question how you take the ongoing genocide of Palestine which has 'only' killed some 10% of the population of Gaza. You fucking think that Israelis aren't peddling that exact same kind of shite you're spreading amongst themselves?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, and every single person who calls for a genocide is wrong. That should be utterly clear by now.

What I mean when I say, "so they cannot be judged?" is to say ruling by numbers is utterly stupid. There is no quantity of people so great that they cannot be INDIVIDUALLY judged. If you liken judging hateful bigots who ARE committing a genocide as equal to a genocide of its own, then you are simply too stupid to understand this entire conversation...

Is EVERYONE saying, "Nazis are bad" also asking for a "big bad genocide"? Or are they stating a fact of relaity that some ideologies are so gross that they do not deserve to be espoused without serious consequence? Seriously, your insistence on being ignorant to this makes me wonder where your morals actually lay... You are clearly espousing more zionism than "genocides are bad"...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What I mean when I say, “so they cannot be judged?” is to say ruling by numbers is utterly stupid. There is no quantity of people so great that they cannot be INDIVIDUALLY judged.

Oh, okay, so as long as there are trials beforehand, genocide is okay.

If you liken judging hateful bigots who ARE committing a genocide as equal to a genocide of its own, then you are simply too stupid to understand this entire conversation…

If someone's response to "Tens-to-hundreds of thousands of people have been genocided" is "It's time for a Final Solution for millions of people", that is absolutely advocacy for a fucking genocide.

Is EVERYONE saying, “Nazis are bad” also asking for a “big bad genocide”? Or are they stating a fact of relaity that some ideologies are so gross that they do not deserve to be espoused without serious consequence?

If I said "If Germany is destroyed within our lifetimes, what do we do with tens of millions of child molesters and fascists who've been indoctrinated into a death cult without an expansionist project to occupy them?"

And someone else said, "There is an answer, but the only issue is that it'll be conflated with the Germans' Final Solution despite having a much more worthy endpoint this time around"

What the ever-loving fuck is that but a call for genocide?

Seriously, your insistence on being ignorant to this makes me wonder where your morals actually lay… You are clearly espousing more zionism than “genocides are bad”…

"Zionism is when I don't like being called out for dogwhistling genocide", I guess. Unless you can point out something I've said that's actually Zionist. Considering my literal previous comment involved explicitly calling out the Israelis for peddling the same kind of genocide apologia that you are right now, I suspect you'll struggle to find what you're looking for.