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Actually insane to say that Collective Shout is blameless. Go look at the vile shit their members are spewing. Not only are they demonstrably culpable for this, they're also engaging in hate speech and disinformation and targeted harassment.
The payment situation is also to blame.
~~No one is saying they are blameless. We are saying they are not the issue that we need to focus on fixing here.~~
Edit: Fuck. Turns out I was wrong.
Yes they are. Yes the fuck they absolutely are.
Fuck. You are right, my apologies.