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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Similiar to Swiss one but worse.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Ok I'm probably the idiot here, but why not just make one key umlauts, and one for both directions of apostrophe, and then make it a key combo with the standard vowel?

Like how shift+a = A, it would be umlaut+a = ä, and shift+umlaut+a = Ä?

How do the real keys (pic) even work?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago

I'm guessing (not sure) that AltGr, visible in the picture, switches between the two options like Shift would. Shift still switches case.

I think the main reason they didn't make an umlaut modifier is that ä is considered a distinct letter from a. It would be like asking why have a key for w ("double u") when it could have been typed as uu. Not a perfect analogy but the best I can think of right now.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Swiss here, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

In all seriousness; it's for german, french and italian. Guess it was just determined to use the limited keys more effieciently in typing. And some are combinators and 9 of 10 people don't know which or what or how.

https://kbdlayout.info/KBDSG/

Ah, btw, we can only type uppercase ÄÖÜ via capslock.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

The position of the umlaut keys are also identical to the German layout. That's probably why there's no switch for those.

Incidentally, the German layout uses such switches for diacritics, but only those used commonly in French, bit also not all of them. ë and ï are impossible, for example, as is ç. And diacritics on consonants are also right out, because fuck the Slavs, I guess.

[–] SigmarStern@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm a German that uses an US keyboard with the US intl layout. I think it solves all of my keyboard needs: I have the benefits of the US layout for programming and access to all common umlauts.r RAlt+S = ẞ e.g. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tastaturbelegung_US-International

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Yep US intntl FTW!