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[–] duchess@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

They have, EVE Online and The Sims.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Eve Online and The Sims are excellent additions. But they are not RPGs.

I would personally include VTMB or Deus Ex, but from a broader perspective probably one of the Ultimas (6 or 7 are considered the best I believe) would be more appropriate.

Don't play jRPGs, but from my understanding FF7 is considered the "best in genre" release.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Of course they are role-playing games, you completely assume the role of a character in another world, even with stat sheets. What kind of role-playing game is Deus Ex, where you play a pre-defined character in a pre-defined plot? The Masquarade is certainly a janky fan favourite, but hardly revolutionary. CRPGs made a shift, from being tabletop simulators and dungeon crawlers (with MOMA contenders like Rogue, Wizardry, or as you suggested Ultima) to games about narrative manifolds. Disco Elysium would be my pick.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With Deus Ex you definitely can play very different characters with a broad spectrum of personalities and narrative decisions. Although I do agree that an argument can be made it's not an RPG.

Eve is a sandbox MMO and The Sims is lifeim, don't really see how they are RPGs.

Very few RPGs execute the role playing component so well as VTMB IMO.

[–] duchess@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

EVE is described by its publisher as an MMORPG and yeah, you have stats and individual ressources and interact with the world and other players. You play a character, a role, the very definition of a role-playing game. Same with The Sims, but offline for yourself and less geopolitical. RPGs are not only games where you directly control a single character or a group of characters and kill stuff, and sometimes pick a lock or something.