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The gamify / social aspect i am personally also not interested in, but the "tracks issue" :)
For example the torino-nice-rallye route is hosted there. Lots of other tracks too that i have been interested in, researching potential routes. Now if i am interested in the track for reference, but don't want to sign up, i'd have to trace the track. They are not necessarily marked routes on OSM.
Interesting. So, if they're not on OpenCycleMap (which is pretty dense AFAICT) then basically we're talking "secret routes", that's the added value. That's roughly what I'd guessed. I don't want to question it too much - after all, you say you get value out of it - but to me it feels to me like a bit of a weak proposition. My usual method is much more basic: I look at the satellite view and see where the trees are! Together with standard OSM data this has served me well enough on both foot and wheels.
the difference is that OpenCycleMap maps actual roads and cycle paths. Kamoot is more for journeys (e.g. recommended routes), which might use cyclepaths, but often won't. They aren't physical things, they are like a pub crawl for biking.
Sure, but that just describes a navigation function. On any OSM client you can select the cycle mode and it will pick an optimal route which uses whatever cyclepaths are available. The result is the same.
Nothing to do with navigation, it's about recommendations. Inspiration.
What @Bonjourmadame@lemmy.ca said. It's not about getting from A to B in the fastest or shortest possible way, it's about getting there in the most fun way, or the most beautiful way, or (going by some of my bikenut friends' apparent preferences) the most arduous and punishing way possible. It's about touring, not travelling. The journey, not the destination.
Yeah yeah I get all that. I just don't see what actual information Komoot provides that will procure me "the most beautiful" journey that's not already available in the standard OSM dataset. Anyway, I've made my point.
Here is an example route guide: https://bikepacking.com/routes/attack-of-the-buns/
I've done this route (or 2/3 of it before my bike broke and I had to get towed out on a dodgy fire trail for 8km, the limp home). There is a LOT of information on that page. Not just the GPX, but also condition info, tips on timing, where to eat, sleep, etc. etc.
How much of that information do you think is storable in OSM, considering that most of it applies to the route, and not to the underlying map features (which is what OSM is good for storing)?
OSM has info on just about every local amenity imaginable, I find there's almost too much of it. As for "tips on timing" or any other hand-holding, don't need it, don't want it. Personally I enjoy discovery and being surprised when travelling. It's also why I never watch videos of my destinations in advance, only text if possible.
Each to their own. No need to take this personally, if you get value out of this stuff then that's great.
Maaaaybe you're in the wrong thread then? Possibly even the wrong community?
This is silly. I asked for clarification about the features of Komoot. I got clarification. I offered my thoughts. End of story.
You came in telling people that kamoot is pointless and could all be done with OSM, without understanding what the actual functionality was.