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On the question of which party was more corrupt, Democrats edged Republicans out, with 49 percent of voters surveyed regarding the Democratic Party as the more corrupt, 44 percent of respondents identifying the Republican Party that way, and just seven percent choosing both, neither or equally corrupt.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

but Democrats are better at hiding it

If I have to hear this stupid ass shit one more time in my life I'm going to lose it.

"Herp derp, they're probably really bad but just hiding it well. I don't have any actual data I'd like to present, just this stupid fucking conspiracy theory I can't support."

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How about this. Obama let Wall Street completely off the hook for causing the 2008 mortgage crisis, then let them in the room for setting up his healthcare plan that financialized healthcare like never before, then collected over a million dollars in speaking fees from financial companies within weeks of leaving office. That do it for you?

Wanna talk about AIPAC, Israel, and genocide for Biden? Nah, I don't think you do. How about foreign donations to the Clinton foundation? Should we talk about Pelosi (among others) and inside trading? And then there is Joe Manchin, but it hardly seems fair to bring him up.

Democratic corruption is ultimately why we have Trump for president again.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Got it: Obama did some bad stuff, so that's why everyone voted for the very embodiment of bad almost a decade later.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, it's not a direct line in the way you put it. With two corrupt parties cynicism grows, and fascism soon after. It's as predictable as death. Sooner or later that's where you end up with a population that feels trapped.

If you want a direct causal relationship, then I guess we should go into the Democratic consultant complex where nepotism thrives and utter failure gets rewarded with more and more responsibility. The consultants and culture that lost to Trump the first time around were still there to lose a second time. Power and advancement in the Democratic party are about who you know, not winning elections. If nepotism gives way to anything, it's raising money to spend on more useless consultants.