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When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.
While this is a fair criticism of Android you don't exactly have access to check and see if Apple is doing the same thing like you do with Android. You're really just taking Apple at their word and they wont even let you cloud save to anything but their servers and can dig through your photos to find illegal content.
Let me tell you about our lord and saviour GrapheneOS
It only works on pixel devices though right.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. If so, hilarious! But, it’s the expected response from an android Lemmy user to reference graphene os.
I actually bought a pixel and installed graphene on it just to give it a try. It’s not bad, and I can do probably 90% of the things I need on there. There are even some nice apps and features you can’t get on iOS (storage scopes is cool). But, at the end of the day, switching is hard. My biggest gripe is backups suck and fail 100% of the time, also no support for touchless payments. Also, android doesn’t manage battery life that well. Some days it’s fine, but other days it randomly drains to almost zero. At the end of the day, I don’t think the solution is to hack together an OS to work on a company’s hardware that doesn’t really support the mission. I wish the Graphene team would partner with Fairphone or something. Anyway, I’ll probably keep using the Pixel here and there, but I don’t know if I could daily drive it. I did try.
Since you mentioned Fairphone, another option as custom ROM would be e/OS which is not only supported but also comes pre-installed on fairphones (if you choose so). Sure, there are differences to Graphene, but I installed e/OS on my fp6 a few weeks ago and Im super happy with it - no more Google! And battery performance is pretty decent, too.
Tbf, never been an Apple guy, so I cant say how the switch would be for you, but coming from Xiaomi-Android it felt really refreshing :D
For contactless payments, try Curve: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imaginecurve.curve.prd
I am curious how Android Auto works with Graphene. I missed Android Auto when I was using LineageOS
Battery is also an issue even on Stock Android. The 5G chips on the recent Pixels drain it like a MF.
It really is annoying, I really want a cheap phone that doesn't spy on me. I'm either stuck between an expensive and closed EcoSystem, Android which I can't trust to fart near or Custom Roms which does lack features
Apple absolutely does spy on their customers. They've just taken this clever approach where they say they don't, and for some bizarre reason everyone just accepts it.
They probably don't spy as much as Google does, but let's face it they're definitely collecting info.
Fanboi: “Apple does everything Android does! They just lie about it!”
Apple is no saint, but they have a different business model with different pressures. There’s little incentive for them to commit the same sins Android does.
What do you think iCloud is for? Do you they are just be nice offering a cloud storage solution, or do you think maybe they get something out of it?
iCloud is just a set of services Apple offers for their customers. Complete with vendor lock in. There’s no indication they are selling that data though if that’s what you are asking.