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In a letter to Congress, the lawyer for Jeffrey Epstein’s convicted co-conspirator says clemency would allow her to talk to lawmakers.

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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No you are arguing just to argue.

I never said anything about “honoring handshake agreements” as the basis of our justice system and this isn't a handshake agreement. It was literally done in a court of law.

  1. Once again the defendant is NOT AT FAULT. If you want to put blame on anyone then you put it on the prosecutor. And the reason why you claim he is at fault is the literal definition for granting immunity. Immunity means you cannot be prosecuted for the crimes committed within it's scope. If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with a lot of cases that were won because immunity was granted towards co-conspirators.

  2. The govt should honor their agreement regardless of if the person is alive or dead. Would you be ok with the govt reneging on a deal if the victim died? Someone takes a plea deal and gets 15yrs, the victim dies in year 5, the govt goes back on the deal and releases the inmate. Is that ok? I bet it isn't.

  3. The deal was not clearly illegal and ONCE AGAIN THE FAULT IS WITH THE PROSECUTOR. Did the prosecutor know if the deal was illegal? The deal they made? The deal was done in federal court between the defendant, his lawyer, the prosecutor, AND approved by the fucking judge. You're telling me that of all those legal experts involved the only one at fault is the one person who isn't a legal expert (the defendant) and because those legal experts made an illegal deal that the defendant has to be punished for agreeing to the deal that all the legal experts drafted for him? Shut the fuck up. You're just here to argue.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

https://www.justice.gov/usao/resources/crime-victims-rights-ombudsman/victims-rights-act

"A crime victim has the following rights:

(2) The right to reasonable, accurate, and timely notice of any public court proceeding, or any parole proceeding, involving the crime or of any release or escape of the accused.

(4) The right to be reasonably heard at any public proceeding in the district court involving release, plea, sentencing, or any parole proceeding.

(9) The right to be informed in a timely manner of any plea bargain or deferred prosecution agreement."

The crime victims were not given those rights. This agreement was clearly illegal.

Also, the defendant isn't being punished. The defendant is dead.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Who was the one who wrote that agreement that Epstein signed? That's the person you have beef with. And this has gone off topic. I argue that if the govt made an agreement in their plea agreement then they have to honor it. I don't give a fuck about legality of the agreement. If they make the agreement, both parties sign it, and the judge approved it then honor it. There is nothing you can say that will change my mind.