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18 countries apply for EU billions as Europe seeks to provide for its own security without the US (apnews.com)
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[โ€“] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sure, let's stick it to the US because they are imperialist capitalist assholes and elected a Cheeto fart (twice).

What do we get in return though? An enormous pile of debt, which will inevitably go towards increasing inequality like these things tend to do. Militarised Europe with a toothless corrupt government and disjointed member states. Worsening relations with the most war hungry nations in the world. Brilliant!

I'm not saying it's the wrong move but I find it hard to love any of it. We're talking about wars, international tension, instability and unpredictability.

[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What we get instead is increased influence and increased independence.

[โ€“] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All of geopolitics is hard to love arguably. But here we are, condoning it, because it's happening, whether we like it or not, and it would be nice to have a say in it.

[โ€“] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Yes, I get it, both your and @stoy 's response. It's why I say I don't think it's the wrong move considering. it just feels like the world is moving backwards. I grew up in a mostly demilitarised, increasingly inclusive Europe, naively believing we're moving past all that crap. Yes, it seems I wasn't a very bright child.