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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Electric vehicles

  • eliminate tailpipe emissions
  • cut brake dust emissions in half
  • pollute less as we transition to renewable energy
  • let us work toward elimination the huge polluting industries for gasoline refining and distribution
  • let us shrink the huge polluting industries of oil extraction and refining
  • are a huge step toward slowing the growth of climate change.

While I completely agree transit, and walkable cities are much better, EVs are not nothing. More importantly, given the amount of time to build transit and walkable cities, EVs get us many of the advantages NOW

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

let us work toward elimination the huge polluting industries for gasoline refining and distribution

Unlikely. If we keep doubling-down on vehicle infrastructure, the remaining ICE vehicles will see greater vehicle-miles traveled (VMT). It's not just the number of cars out there, it's the number of cars multiplied by the distances that they travel.

let us shrink the huge polluting industries of oil extraction and refining

Unlikely. The industrial processes and materials used to produce EVs use copious quantities of petrochemicals.

are a huge step toward slowing the growth of climate change.

Unlikely. EVs still need the same infrastructure as ICE vehicles, and the chemical process of curing concrete alone is one of the major sources of CO~2~ emissions. As well, the ecological destruction wrought by automobile infrastructure is a significant contributor to climate change.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

EVs still need the same infrastructure as ICE vehicles

Hmmm, I haven’t taken mine to a gas station in two years. I must be way overdue.

Now I know you’re moving the goalposts to roads when I was talking gasoline industry, but let me point out where I started

While I completely agree transit, and walkable cities are much better, EVs are not nothing.

More importantly I do live in a partly walkable town. I do use transit when I can. And yes I have the privilege of living in one of the few parts of the US where intercity rail is decent

Talking only about the gasoline industry when considering climate change is, at best, ineffective. What's more, that's exactly what the cartoon is calling out, i.e. touting the reduction in tailpipe emissions while ignoring all the myriad other ways that EVs are just like ICE vehicles. (Which includes large contributions to climate change.)

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