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Argue all you want as long as you vote (for Dems).
Are they actually good?
No, but we don't have the popularity and support to elect good candidates yet, so right now it's a choice between bad and worse. We should be doing what we can to avoid worse.
You should be doing all that you can to avoid bad at all.
You should be looking at revolution not voting.
Why do you think those are mutually exclusive? Can you not walk and chew gum at the same time? Wouldn't doing all that you can do involve both laying the groundwork for revolution AND strategically voting against worse in the meantime? Voting doesn't prevent me from democratizing my workplace, organizing with other leftists, educating non-leftists, or anything else that furthers direct action.
Why do you think it's an either/or choice?
"Look they only offer half of what I want. Better protest no vote in Trump. That'll only do several decades of damage instead. Much better than only half of what I want."
Perhaps that was an argument before Trump got voted, but now? What have the Dems actually done? Why not vote someone else instead of these 2 garbage options?
Because no one else has the popularity to win at the moment?
"Look a distraction from them offering half the things I want! Btw Bush was great!"