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[–] NaibofTabr 54 points 4 days ago (17 children)

So, I'm not assuming that you or the person I replied to are in the US specifically.

But in the context of the US, if you (generally) chose not to vote in the 2024 election then you are guilty of doing nothing to prevent the atrocities committed by the Trump administration, when you in fact had the opportunity to do something - which is to say that you are guilty of negligence.

If you encouraged others to not vote then you are complicit in the actions of the Trump administration, because you helped put them in power.

There is no "blame-shifting game" being played here, as there is no need to shift anything. The blame is direct, valid, and undeniable.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (7 children)

How does that work with electors anyway? I'm under the impression that if you don't live in a swing state your vote is basically a formality.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Yes. And even in a swing state, it may take a million or more votes to swing it.

The few states with apportioned electors are the outlier.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah your vote has a one in a million power best case scenario. But in non swing states it willl be a few orders of magnitude less powerful.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The problem is, there often more than a million people in that state all thinking the same thing, that their vote doesn't matter. Well, they've self fulfilled by taking themselves out of the equation.

[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That's an unproveable negative, and a strawman. An easy enough target for a crappy argument.

[–] NaibofTabr 4 points 3 days ago

It's not really unprovable when we know that on average less than 50% of eligible voters actually vote.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

If only we could all people why they didn't vote. Oh wait, we have! There's hundreds of polls asking people their reasons.

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