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So, I'm not assuming that you or the person I replied to are in the US specifically.
But in the context of the US, if you (generally) chose not to vote in the 2024 election then you are guilty of doing nothing to prevent the atrocities committed by the Trump administration, when you in fact had the opportunity to do something - which is to say that you are guilty of negligence.
If you encouraged others to not vote then you are complicit in the actions of the Trump administration, because you helped put them in power.
There is no "blame-shifting game" being played here, as there is no need to shift anything. The blame is direct, valid, and undeniable.
I’d really love to know which candidates these assholes primaried for or what revolutions they’ve started. I can get behind NOT WANTING to vote bc it feels bad most of the time but pretending their inaction is some moral victory is feeble minded.
How does that work with electors anyway? I'm under the impression that if you don't live in a swing state your vote is basically a formality.
Your vote is a formality until it swings the state. What is a swing state changes every election. You never truly know until after you voted so vote every time.
Yes. And even in a swing state, it may take a million or more votes to swing it.
The few states with apportioned electors are the outlier.
Yeah your vote has a one in a million power best case scenario. But in non swing states it willl be a few orders of magnitude less powerful.
The problem is, there often more than a million people in that state all thinking the same thing, that their vote doesn't matter. Well, they've self fulfilled by taking themselves out of the equation.
That's an unproveable negative, and a strawman. An easy enough target for a crappy argument.
It's not really unprovable when we know that on average less than 50% of eligible voters actually vote.
If only we could all people why they didn't vote. Oh wait, we have! There's hundreds of polls asking people their reasons.
What if they were in a state where their vote wouldn't have even remotely changed the electoral vote outcome? It's a strawman blame game you're playing to feel smug about yourself in a generalized approach.
You don't know anyone's personal situation yet you have no qualm placing blame for a worldwide issue on a single individual.
Good for you. You shamed someone for not solving the worlds climate issues with a single fucking vote that may not have even made any difference at all.
Doing something is always better than doing nothing. You don’t get to cry if you did nothing, nobody should care about nothing, if you do nothing you are nothing. Stop fucking crying about it.
Strawman argument to presume a wasted vote is doing something, or that there are no other things to be doing.
I'm not crying about it. I'm telling fuckers who demand everyone vote to step the right fuck off their high horse and look around and see the math. It wouldn't have mattered for so many.
Do something or shut the fuck up and stop crying. If you sat on your hands then you don’t get to be mad, simple as.
Or, and please hear me out, because you're not going to like it.
The Republican party are directly responsible for putting Trump as the nominee.
The people who voted Republican are directly responsible.
The Democrat party are indirectly responsible by presenting such a poor-looking alternative. "We're not Trump" is not enough.
The people who chose not to vote are the least responsible of all.
You're directing your anger in the wrong direction. It's the corruption within the system you need to be tearing down, not some poor sod on the internet.
What's the plan - to scare them into voting the way you want in the next election? To argue with and win over the millions of extra voters the Democrats needed?
The problem isn't with the people who saw that both sides were bad options - it's with the Democrat party for being a bad option.
They just want internet points and the brief satisfaction of feeling smug by being a piece of shit to someone online.
I'm getting lots of downvotes. The Principal Skinner meme comes to mind.
Is the Democratic Party at fault?
No, the millions of people who didn't want to vote for the Democratic Party are to blame.
It will never cease to amaze me when these people blame the voters, instead of blaming the people with the power, the platform, and the money for where we are today.