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Manufacturing consent for internet surveillance (infosec.pub)

submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by streetfestival@lemmy.ca to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.ca

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Published 20 years ago and, maybe, more relevant than ever

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Okay but don't go around calling people "the enemy" to their faces if you want them to accept this truth.

Like that is basic psychology. If I were an authoritarian or fascist dictator that wanted to poison and sabotage the people's movement, I'd pretend to be one of them and act like an asshole.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I don’t need their permission for them to accept the truth. And if you think this is a game of consent, you’ve already lost.

Delusional people with their “beliefs” is how he got into this mess in the first place. They need to be the first to go. Delusions serve no one but the self. It is a ritualistic beast, selfish act. Democracy depends on teamwork. All of us working together, caring about each other and such.

Self selfishness that level is tantamount treason

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I don’t need their permission for them to accept the truth

I don't know what this means? That sentence doesn't make any sense. How would you require permission for someone ELSE to accept the truth?

And if you think this is a game of consent, you’ve already lost.

I never said anything about consent.

Delusional people with their “beliefs” is how he got into this mess in the first place. They need to be the first to go.

Okay again, if you want to threaten to murder people that's fine, but DON'T DO IT TO THEIR FACES! Like he can hear you in here! Someone saying "I think you should be the first to go" is not going to make them change their minds!

Democracy depends on teamwork. All of us working together, caring about each other and such.

Yeah. And part of that caring means deprogramming people, using positive propaganda, talking to people, convincing them of things, arguing.

[Homer Simpson's Brain Voice]: "People can be influenced to believe things by their peers, or techniques such as propaganda."

Whatever you're doing, going around calling people traitors and "the enemy" and saying "they should be the first to go", is the exact opposite of propaganda that helps us. It is propaganda that hurts us. Capitalists pay people to do exactly what you are doing right now, because they're cunning enough to know it hurts us.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That’s a lot of cunting

Cunt

But, most of all, thank you for telling me how much I hurt you. It’s my reason for living.

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