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Things seem to have moved after the Cabinet meeting this morning, but there are some pretty big caveats:

[The announcement] will stipulate the need for the release of all the hostages still held by Hamas and be based on a guarantee the terror group no longer rules Gaza, sources say.

Also made me wonder how Starmer's conversation with Trump went yesterday. Not good?

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[–] MrPoletki@feddit.uk 24 points 4 days ago (13 children)

will stipulate the need for the release of all the hostages still held by Hamas

Ah, that old chestnut. So the UK will only recognise palestine as a state when the IDF says that all the hostages have been recovered.

So that'll be at the tail end of never then.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Yeah, it's pretty weak sauce. I don't see that the UK has much leverage, but that being the case, we ought to be just doing the moral thing. As I said in the OP, I do wonder how the chat with Trump - who, gods help us, is one of the few people who does have leverage - fed into the calculation of this statement.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (10 children)
[–] Senal@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What kind? Genuine question, I don't know shit about this

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Uk has no eminent security risk so there is no reason to by and sells arms from/to israel. Israel is the 44th trading parner of the uk so they can also impose sanctions on israel

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Israel is the 44th trading partners of Israel? Sorry what the fuck are you trying to say here?

Ok makes sense now you've edited it 😀

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean israel is only uk's 44th trade partner accounting for only about 0.3% of total UK trade. The uk could impose sanctions on israel

[–] Senal@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is direct trade that only issue that determines whether or not sanctions could be applied?

Surely there's general politics bulshittery in the mix ?

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Well I guess it's about the degree of leverage that you have. Trading is... A big stick.

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