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Ukrainian author-turned-soldier takes aim at Westerners' ‘abstract pacifism’ (kyivindependent.com)
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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can't help but feel this is the pot calling the kettle black. What did Ukrainian leftists do about any of the conflicts they weren't directly involved with? No shit people are pacifist or ignorant when they're not directly involved. The majority of people only care about things that directly affect them.

I get his frustration with how things are, but if the shoe were on the other foot I doubt he'd act much differently.

[–] doo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I believe your argument is an example of whataboutism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

While you're not wrong that people in general tend to care more about matters directly affecting them, this fact is simply not relevant to the original fact that peace for ruZZia can only mean their complete victory and genocide for Ukrainians.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago

How is it a whataboutism when it was the point he was trying to make?