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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The problem here is the assumption that modifiers can be safely ignored.

In the same way that veggie chicken is, obviously, not chicken, a bowl full of potatoes and mayonnaise is not a salad. It is a potato salad, and the word "potato" is doing too much heavy lifting to omit.

If I asked someone to get me a salad, and they came back with a potato salad, I'd assume they were pranking me.

This is why dictionaries list multiple definitions for words.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Mayonnaise and potatoes are called potato salad? Is that some US thing? Where I am from, a potato salad is sliced cooked potatoes, onions, salt, sunflower oil and some vinegar. Much closer to a salad that than mayonnaise abomination.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

salt, sunflower oil and some vinegar

I mean, add an egg to that and you have mayo.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Maybe so? I mean, I'm exaggerating a little, but those are the two primary ingredients of most of these non-salad "salads" that I would find in a typical diner or supermarket.

Potato salad, egg salad, macaroni salad, and tuna salad are fundamentally mayonnaise, potato/egg/macaroni/tuna, and spices. Probably some chopped onion and herbs as well. They are often nearly-homogenous glop.

I'm sure there are less offensive ways of making these things, and perhaps I would actually consider some of them "salads". But yes, the glop I described is commonly called "____ salad". I don't think it would be reasonable to call them "salads" with no qualifier. These are compound phrases, and it's best not to get stuck on the etymology.

You can also call a poorly-written headline "word salad". And yet if I ordered a salad and got a copy of the New York Post, I would be very confused indeed.

[–] MarieMarion@literature.cafe 2 points 3 days ago

France : I'd call cubed potatoes in mayonnaise a salad. A proper potato salad would have sliced pickles and diced ham, but still.