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[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Tesla is not self-driving, just SAE level 2. Mercedes is actually level 3.

Tesla wants to do it without LiDAR which seems hopeless to me.

Not sure about the "50 times safer" claim but a common mistake: Sober humans are much better drivers than humans in general (including drugged ones). Something like 100 times if I remember it correctly.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Very good point, no doubt the vast majority of human error comes from not being vigilant, usually from being intoxicated.

I just met with a taxi driver in England who has owned a Tesla for a few years - he feels like the level of assistance with Tesla is practically useless on British, and by extension, European streets. Combine its poor cruising performance on thinner lanes and diverse types of corners with its trigger-happy e-braking for objects and people nearby, and you have a car which actually causes more dangers in urban environments. It really helped me see that while it's advanced, it's not really that advanced compared to, say, basic cruise control (match speed, braking, no route following or turning junctions/corners) that some EU cars have been fitted with for nearly two decades now. (Sober) humans are still safer when making choices like object avoidance and turning.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You mean the Mercedes which failed all of th se tests?

Mercedes is an insurance product more than a tech product. They found an underwriter and a very rigid set of circumstances to insure hands off driving.

[–] mortalic@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I keep seeing this posted about Mercedes, am I missing something? I test drove an EQS sedan and it basically just stayed in its lane. I have a Tesla with FSD and it drives me home. Point A to point B. Is there another setting the Mercedes needs to have turned on or something?

Used EQS prices dropped like an anvil and it would be great to not drive a fascwagon

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mercedes calls it „Drive Pilot“. Did your EQS have that?

[–] mortalic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

TBH, I don't know. Perhaps not, or maybe it needed to be enabled or selected. Is it capable of point A to point B driving?