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The question was posed in a safe environment. Douthat, one of the Times’ most reliable conservatives, offered Thiel sufficient context to escape with an easy answer. Douthat prefaced his question by saying: “a number of people deeply involved in artificial intelligence see it as a mechanism for transhumanism—for transcendence of our mortal flesh—and either some kind of creation of a successor species or some kind of merger of mind and machine.” He was referencing the movement to radically enhance and evolve humans to achieve immortality. Transhumanist adherents advocate for a range of innovations, from genetic biohacking to uploading our consciousness to a computer to merge with A.I., freezing ourselves through cryonics, and robotically adapting our bodies through expansive bionics that reach the level of cyborgs.

Douthat clearly thought that Thiel would choose human over machine. But Thiel responded with a long hesitation. In a video of the exchange, Douthat—to his credit—is clearly taken aback.

Thiel has long been cagey and ambiguous about his beliefs—likely a strategic play for his career as an investor—but he has clearly been fascinated with transhumanism for a long time. This recent interview, though, seems more direct and dangerous. Thiel seems unwilling to answer the question: Does he eventually want to be a literal, honest-to-god brain in a jar wired to a Macbook Pro?

Yes... That's been the plan the whole fucking time. I thought we all knew this already?

There is just something about watching the slow, but inevitable collapse of the U.S. and eventually humanity as we know it, due to the very deliberate actions of one billionaire who was born in another country and who has been playing both sides against each other, while all other silicon valley billionaires have just accepted this as inevitable and are holding brainstorming sessions about what they can do following the collapse, rather than just stopping the guy who is orchestrating the whole thing.

Transhumanism is our inevitable fate, but this was all kicked off by a movement thar coerced Americans into believing they had to organize against secular humanism before things got anymore out of hand.

Thank God (can I still say God or do I have to say Thank Thiel?) we didn't let that happen.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 53 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thiel is a piece of shit...

But so is this author for writing an article about a pause proceeding and answer, and never saying the answer

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah they're reading into it way too much.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The host asked Thiel ‘You would prefer the human race to endure, right?’

Thiel hesitated, doing some umm-ing and ahh-ing, even at one point saying ‘I don’t know’.

The billionaire went on to clarify and said: “Yes [I would like us to endure] but I also would like us to radically solve these problems.

https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/peter-thiel-future-humanity-trans-humanism-sociopath-882051-20250709

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah totally, now is not the time to bring this up. Just like Trump saying "you'll never need to vote again." Or that Nazi salute that Musk did that wasn't really a Nazi salute when he did it, but now we all can acknowledge it was.

Once our Lord and Savior Peter Thiel has ascended after sacrificing us all for our mortal sins, then we can acknowledge this.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

It was 100% a nazi salute

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Dont be a dick, people arent simping for Thiel just because they think the article you posted is over interpreting a single pause.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

You're right. The link below is not the only place I've seen the quote cited, just the first I found in a hurry.

The host asked Thiel ‘You would prefer the human race to endure, right?’

Thiel hesitated, doing some umm-ing and ahh-ing, even at one point saying ‘I don’t know’.

The billionaire went on to clarify and said: “Yes [I would like us to endure] but I also would like us to radically solve these problems.

https://www.unilad.com/news/us-news/peter-thiel-future-humanity-trans-humanism-sociopath-882051-20250709