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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The same thing will happen in China now that they’re getting more Capitalist than Socialist.

China: "We're working on our next five year plan, as part of a grand fifty year plan for full national modernization. We haven't had a recession in 40 years and we've functionally eliminated poverty within our borders. We're currently working on a network of trans-continental railroads and global shipping lanes to bring our modern industrial capacity to the planetary scale. As we slough off the productive surge of capitalism and turn state owned enterprises into the foundation of our economic model, we are enjoying an era of wealth and social stability not enjoyed by any country on earth in human history. This is just as Karl Marx predicted, two-hundred years ago."

American: "No, that's just capitalism. You're doing capitalism right now."

Also American: "We invested another trillion dollars in VR that hosts an AI that makes bitcoins. Our GDP is up to 15 digits. No, we don't care about our measles epidemic, it builds character."

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

American: "We invested another trillion dollars in VR that hosts an AI that makes bitcoins."

China: "Sounds great, we'll gladly make and supply 90% of all bitcoin hardware to make a quick buck off of your global ecological crisis machine (100% not capitalism I promise)"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

100% not capitalism

Capitalism is when you... produce low cost surplus for general consumption?

What happens when you ban crypto trading and mining because its exploiting the SOE low cost electricity?

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So long as the workers' pockets are being filled, being the number one producer of literal trash, propping up global consumerism and burning the planet is irrelevant.

After all, it's those dirty capitalists that forced us to pillage our own country and disregard our worker's health and safety. But at the same time don't forget that we're the #1 shining world leader and those capitalist pigs can't boss us around! 🇨🇳💪🇨🇳

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

those dirty capitalists that forced us to pillage our own country

My man, what are you even on? You seem to have China confused with West Virginia.

[–] Mniot@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism is when there's an owner-class controlling production via capital. It doesn't really matter what they're producing or at what cost or who's consuming.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Capitalism is when there’s an owner-class controlling production via capital.

It's funny, because I've seen more than a few libertarians assert that Communism is the Worst Form Of Capitalism because any kind of regulation is just Government Ownership of Production. The only true path to socialism is a fully devolved privatization of all territory and commodities.

So you have people go out into the woods to create this ultra-orthodox free market absent any kind of iron grip of Big Government. They spend millions on marketing their liberal utopia to attract a large base of like-minded people. They take over the local government, abolish the regulations, end the tyranny of the Woke Government Leftists, and finally unleash the power of individualist John Galt style ingenuity. And then their city fills up with bears.