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[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Adding a few more points to fully kill crypto as a "freedom currency"

  • Generating crypto requires capital; people with computers and access to energy will instantly get the ability to outgenerate any other crypto participant
  • Energy-centric currency just empowers the same rich lobbies; oil and gaz lobbies are delighted to see that there's an uptick in energy demand
  • People with right material (read, capital) can track you, but low chance to track anyone doing crime at a national level (due to odds of them having a competent IT (baring the Hegseth drunkards out there))
[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also because the entire thing is backed financially by energy wasted, crypto has actually been slowing down the adoption of cheaper, safer renewable energy.

People spend x dollars on generating crypto, they expect to sell it for x+profit

Ergo if energy became cheaper, crypto would devalue and we can't have that.

Mining hardware is the bigger cost for bitcoin. Tokens are the largest cost for PoS.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 3 points 4 days ago

What keeps people from looking at point 1 and not totally stopping there, you think? The game is statistically unwinnable and the more rubes play, the bigger the leech gets.

I looked into crypto seriously several years ago when a friend got interested. I had to inform them it was still a casino where Have's print the cash and make the rules, specifically so the currency returns to them with interest off someone else's(our) brow. ie, same scam as wall street stonks. Just reiterating Point 1.

Pretty pointless unless there is an anti-fascist buying collective or something. Remember when reddit saved gamestop for a few years and, uh, very suddenly a lot of common investment apps 'stopped working' that week?

As soon as you get a hand in their game, they'll show you right away you were meant to die slaving for them, not participating in decisionmaking (money AND politics).

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

"Difficulty adjustment" minimizes profits. You get a much higher return on the stock market than you do holding dollars.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Your post applies to Bitcoin specifically, not crypto in general.

[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So according to you, there's a crypto that 1. doesn't need any capital (computers), 2. doesn't need wastable energy (power that wouldn't otherwise be used) and 3. is actually impossible to track across the board?

From a user perspective yes to all 3.

From a infrastructure perspective,

  1. You need capital to keep people honest. Nothing at risk means people can lie

  2. Some power is still needed, but Ethereum has gone from the consumption of Chile to a single windfarm.

  3. ZK proofs now allow anyone to create an anonymous token. Most blockchains are opt in for anonymity.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have an ignorant question: is gaz a French-Canadian spelling? I always thought it was Russian.

[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

As far as I know it's just french spelling, not limited to French-Canadian.