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“Neutrality Won’t Save Us”: Austria Reconsiders NATO Membership Amid Rising Russian Threat
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@plyth@feddit.org
They don't "pressure" Austria to join, as well as Nato didn't pressure Finland and Sweden to join. Finland and Sweden wanted to join because of Russia's aggression against Ukraine.
If a country wants to become a Nato member, it must apply for membership. This is also what the article says. It is Austria that reconsiders its stance on neutrality, considering Nato membership.
Nato doesn't pressure no one to join, and it never did. Your statement is misleading.
Lol ask Greece about that
Btw, countries don't apply but are invited.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO
Especially Finland makes sense, even though they are also protected by article 42. But that motivation is not transferable to Austria.
There is no believable motivation for Austria. Consequently there must be another incentive.
@plyth@feddit.org
This is false.
As was, for example, the case with Finland's application back in 2022 (and very much with all other Nato members' applications), the new member sign up works as follows:
Regarding your comment:
This is false.
Austria's motivation is the Rising Russian Threat. It's in the headline. The reason is Russia's unprovoked war against Ukraine, namely the full-scale invasion that started in 2022.
Addition:
Btw, Ex-Nato head George Robertson said Putin wanted to join alliance in the early 2000s but did not want to wait in line with ‘countries that don’t matter’
That's russian propaganda. Putin's Russia demanded a "veto-right" over military action. Such a thing does not exist in NATO. The very idea is bonkers, as it would mean denying the right to collective self-defense. Even then, Putin acted in bad faith.
And I am questioning that headline. It doesn't make sense for Austria. Austria is surrounded by Nato members and has Article 42 protection. Nato cannot offer more security while Austria enters the obligation to defend America, Canada and Türkiye. What does Nato offer?
Sweden is also surrounded by Nato members. Denmark, too. The Netherlands. Belgium. France (with the exception of Switzerland). Your argument doesn't hold.
Austria’s motivation is the Rising Russian Threat. It’s in the headline.
Best thing is you look it up yourself: www. nato.int
Sweden shares a body of water with Russia, so there is some sense. For the others, remember that defence against a potentially dangerous Germany was needed.
Please name one scenario in which Austria is safer in Nato. I only see more obligations and a higher risk of first strikes by giving up neutrality.
Wow, what an analysis.
In my view, the Rising Russian Threat is far bigger in any scenario. This is why Austria reconsiders Nato membership.
What is Russia threatening in Austria?
Please name one scenario in which Austria isn't safer in Nato amid Rising Russian Threat.
Nato stationing nuclear bombers in Austria to spread the first strike targets for Russia.
No, this is false. It is better to have Nato's Article 5 and EU's article 42 than article 42 without 5 amid Rising Russian Threat.
Deterrence is one point of a Nato membership, btw. Just look it up yourself: www. nato.int
True for many countries but not Austria. Nato would be massively losing if Russia manages to reach Austria. In that case being neutral should be better.
First, you say that Russia is no threat to Austria. Now you reverse everything and say the opposite. Once again, you are arguing in bad faith.
If! There is no scenario where Austria is threatened.
I have seen very clever comments from you. Don't pretend that you don't understand this.
Everyone is threatened by Russia, bro. This is not hard to grasp.
It's easy to believe because we always had that propaganda. Yet there is no scenario where Austria is threatened in a way that requires Nato membership. I have asked several times for scenarios, you always evaded.