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TranscriptA tweet saying "bruh the economy isn't even real, we literally fucking made it up, just let people have food wtf"

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[–] FundMECFS@quokk.au 77 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The pyramids of giza are obviously fake, capitalism wasn't invented yet so there was no innovation

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It wasn't capitalism, but the means of production don't seem like they were owned by the population but rather individuals still. A theocratic monarchy is the closest I could guess to call it. So basically if the U.S. is almost there

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True, but this was referring to people saying that innovation won't happen without capitalism.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, everyone has dreams. Sometimes it's MLK, other times it's Pharaohs. An actual democratic communist society would be nice, but I'm afraid I'll never get to try it out

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Defeatism is a poison to progress.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How could they plan this without Starbucks and Microsoft Teams?!

Imagine the scale of the HR department alone.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

yeah, it was slavery, which is worse

[–] LuckyDevil@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

~~Oh, I know this one! Slaves... Lots and lots of slaves.~~

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Probably not, actually! Or at least, not usually. There were a lot of pyramids built over a very long period of time, and ancient Egypt definitely did have slavery in general, so I'm not going to claim there was no slavery involved. However, due to the records we have of the workers getting paid and when they worked, it's thought that most of the labour was done by farmers during the annual Nile floods since they couldn't work their fields at that time anyway

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Next question, was the mass slave image created to help push the biblical idea of an oppressed society saved by their deity?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm only guessing here but probably egyptian society had lots of classes and some of them were poorer than others, so it could still both be true: Egypt had not slaves, but very poor people, who felt like slaves. or sth

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think they're referencing the ancient Israelites specifically. As the story goes, they were slaves in Egypt. Yahweh sends enough plagues to make the pharaoh release them, and then he gets Moses to guide them to a new home. The historicity of this is doubtful; there absolutely could have been a group of slaves in Egypt that got free and went to what would becone Israel, but there's no non-religious evidence for much of the rest of it.

Since the story is a kind of foundational tale for both Judaism and Christianity (and possibly other Abrahamic faiths like Islam, but I don't personally know about them), there's a strong motivation to look at these incredible buildings and say, "That must have been so much work that it could only have been built by forcing people to work on it. And look, the bible/pentateuch says the Israelites were slaves in that place and time."

[–] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Like a Serfdom

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago

I've no idea, but that does sound like quite a plausible theory

[–] LuckyDevil@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm, learn something new every day!

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

I thought that was a myth? ^[source]:^ ^a^ ^book^ ^I^ ^read^ ^4^ ^years^ ^ago^