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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (19 children)

They need to fire their CEO and get an executive suite that can develop good products and not just copy Google while adding keywords related to "privacy" and "freedoms" in their marketing copytext.

That's the exact same thing as Google.

I say this as long time Proton user and subscriber.

[–] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 96 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Imo, having Proton just copy Google but actually be private is exactly what I want. Of course, if they stray away from privacy then there will be issues. I also feel like they are making good stuff. As a subscriber myself I don't have many issues with their offering other than the stuff they don't provide but Google does.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I don't believe they will be able to compete with Google/OpenAI in a direct battle by having a 1:1 LLM product copy but with privacy. The costs are likely too high for an organisation like Proton and their LLM is likely to have significantly subpar output.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for a private, cloud LLM, but I would rather they came up with novel usability features, a better front-end for evaluating sources (and faster identification of errors and hallucinations) and so on.

I am not seeing any of that.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

I don't believe they will be able to compete with Google/OpenAI in a direct battle

I don't know about that. From my experience, community AI models (both image generation and LLMs) are often far, far superior to whatever large corporations can dish out within the same size bracket

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