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[–] CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This is so IRL. It was the last drop in the bucket when using systemd, when it started to let me wait out a countdown every time I shut it down. I would just flip the power supply switch. Then I switched from Arch to Artix.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s fun to watch that countdown with a non-removable laptop battery that is about to die. Problem solved it’s self I guess. Edit: Alpine Linux now.

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 15 points 6 days ago

I was pretty sure systemd doesn't have to be configured like that. Anyway, on my company managed Linux systemd tries to access some network service on startup and shutdown. Unless I'm plugged into on site LAN, I get to wait a full network timeout (presumably with retries) every time.

At least it's not Windows.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

probably just because it's doing the correct thing and waiting for the applications in your session to close?

[–] CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In principle, but it did never hurt anything when I just straight up cut the power so I got the feeling that I was waiting for nothing. It wasn't like the disk wasn't flushed yet or anything. Maybe it is good to be extra careful when restarting a server or something similar, but for desktop usage I prefer if the init system just kills everything after a few seconds so I can go with my day. Neither is right or wrong just whatever you prefer. I like a cutthroat style in general and I accept the minor risks that come with it.

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's not a good practice to allow immediate shutdown on a PC, as long as the OS doesn't do checks for finished data transfers. You will lose data if SSD is not finished writing it. Yes, even with super fast SSD there might be stuff that takes seconds to complete.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

yeah makes sense ig, i very frequently long hold the power button when i have to deal with w*ndows

[–] psud@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The command is shutdown -h now

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Personally I prefer poweroff

[–] match@pawb.social 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

the system is going down for shutdown NOW!

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

Whether the system likes it or not

[–] izder456@ieji.de 5 points 6 days ago

@CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV @NoFood4u fuck systems with timers on shutdown
I want it to respect my acpi events
I meant it when I pushed the button