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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 211 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (39 children)

Need to petition Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, and American Express. I don't think trying to get Valve to reverse these recent changes will necessarily be effective, since they are being pressured by the payment processors and they definitely aren't going to risk not being able to effectively do business at all.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 109 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yeah, nah.

Petition these people:

https://www.collectiveshout.org/partners

Collective Shout is sustained by a small number of Australian partners. These are not big groups, and would quickly pull funding under any sort of pressure.

Collective Shout has a deep history with Christofascism and TERFs, so highlighting those angles is the way to go to get them pariahed. Once CS is out of the picture, we can work on undoing the damage they did.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is incredibly shortsighted.

If you get Collective Shout to stop, another group might pick up where they left off.

The problem needs to be fixed, what you're suggesting is just making the people currently abusing it stop doing so. That's not a long term solution.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No it’s incredibly idiotic to do otherwise.

You don’t fight a fire while the arsonist is still setting it on fire.

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Except they're not fighting the fire here, they're taking away the arsonist's flamethrowser so he can't continue making the fire. Without that flamethrower, the arsonist can't do shit.

Fighting the fire would be petitioning Steam, but the target is the payment processors that pressured Steam on request of Collective Shout.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Fighting the fire happens after stopping the person lighting the fire. Focus on the immediate threat, don’t get distracted by the lofty long term.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Petitioning people to do something that is against their entire purpose doesn't seem like it would be effective.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only that, they'll get louder claiming they're being oppressed. Ignore them.

[–] FundMECFS@quokk.au 3 points 6 days ago

Go on about being harassed and doing “high risk work”

[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago
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