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ICE agents told a teenage US citizen: ‘You’ve got no rights.’ He secretly recorded them.
(www.theguardian.com)
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They never said to start breaking the law. They said people should start defending themselves, which is legal.
Yeah, I read it as "if I'm threatened, I'll respond in kind. You should do the same." Not "go out and murder cops right now."
Responding in kind would be shooting at cops that are about to shoot you. Here we're talking about cops detaining people. Shooting them would be illegal. If you doubt that go ask a lawyer before buying a gun.
Terry v. Ohio is the reference here. Unless there is articulable suspicion that a crime is afoot, the detention is, by definition, illegal. Driving while brown (or existing while brown) does not qualify as articulable suspicion of a crime. Therefore, this is an illegal detention - otherwise known as kidnapping. Defending yourself against kidnapping is an understandable position one might take. It might be unwise however, given the criminal justice system is overwhelmingly stacked in favor of law enforcement. That is a personal choice we are free to make so long as we understand the likely consequences of our actions.