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[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 238 points 1 month ago (16 children)

What that actually looked like:

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 148 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

A perfectly designed test - ambiguous enough that anyone subjected to it can be failed.

I still don't know what #11 is "supposed" to be.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 40 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I think it's supposed to say "Cross out the digit necessary", so one digit, in which case cross out the 1 because there's enough 0's that crossing out one 0 isn't enough.

It's 10 that has me confused. Is it asking for the last letter of the first word that starts with 'L' in that sentence? It doesn't actually specify.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would assume each question is independent of the others, so probably a T for 'last'

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago

That would be my guess too, but tbh that's the only question I don't feel confident about

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, in the most pedantic sense, the correct answer is "a", for "Louisiana"

[–] Eyro_Elloyn@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Oh, you're black? Sorry, it was first L word in this undisclosed dictionary that we use for these tests"

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, but the actual answer is how white are you?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

And question 12, looks like the intent was below circle 3, but they put below circle 2. So is it a typo, or another intentionally ambiguous question where you can fail whoever you want?

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[–] THB@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can anyone explain #1 to me? What are you supposed to circle? It says "the number or the letter". There's 1 number and the entire sentence is literally letters...

It's like when the waiter asks "Soup or salad?" and you say "Yes".

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Circle? It clearly says draw a line around whatever you decided wrongly to indicate. Lines don't curve and aren't boxes, so good luck.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

This was my first hold up. I think the correct answer is to print the test onto a substrate that can be molded into a sphere. Then you can draw a geodesic around the number.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] 5too@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read it as "1." Which underlines the point, I think

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Oh, yes. Reading it again you're correct. I was looking for the number of letter on the sentence. When it clearly says of. Guess I don't deserve to vote.

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[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And 13 is unclear if it's strictly 'more than' or 'more than or equal'

[–] doughless@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's on purpose - white skin? it can be either one; otherwise both are wrong.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 19 points 1 month ago

You actually weren't subjected to literacy tests "if your grandfather was eligible to vote", ie your grandfather was a white citizen.

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

I would always assume not more than or equal unless it says so

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You got enough answers but here's how you deny someone the right to vote: the question really means you need to make the number 1000000 exact as that is the number "below" the question. Not fewer, physically below.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh good, now we have three completely different answers

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago

What's interesting about the literacy tests is how much they have in common with IQ tests!

For example, a friend of mine remembers his childhood testing. For part of it a child is handed a set of cards and told to put them in order.

They have pictures of a set of blocks being assembled into a structure and the sun moves in an arc in the background.

Following the order implied by the sun is, apparently, wrong.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

You cross out all of the 0s after the 1 and first 5 0s, so that the number is 100,000

Or you cross out just the 1

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You need to cross out enough zeros so that it makes a million. Pretty sure

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean purely pedantic, I have no idea the original test writers... but based on how I read the words

The number (one singular number needs to be crossed out)

Below one million, IE number < 1,000,000

So my conclusion

~~1~~0000000000 < 1,000,000

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[–] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Ah, but they can get you because a bunch of zeros isn't "a number".

You could cross out the first 1000000... leaving just the last zero, though.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

It's not supposed to be anything. There is no correct answer. The ambiguity is the point.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 99 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also worth pointing out, WHY the test is so bad... 1. obviously not even well educated people today can agree on the meaning of a good portion of the questions.

but the biggest thing is, not everyone had to take them... IE the key point intention was "if a parent or grandparent has ever voted, you can skip this test". which is such a blatant giving away that they don't care of an individuals knowledge, they aren't actually worried if they can read, they were just keeping first generation voters from voting... at a time when in particular a specific subset of american's were in position to be first generation voters.

[–] match@pawb.social 39 points 1 month ago

(black people, particularly)

[–] match@pawb.social 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are two more pages to this and it gets worse

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is like the kryptonite of autistic people... and black voters whenever they had this...

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