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Ok so I'm having a bit of a rough time ATM. It's in relation to this comment I made yesterday.
Miniest and I have had a few chats, I've tried to be tolerant and accepting but I'm ashamed to say that the tolerance and understanding is not happening as easily on my end of things as it probably should be. I feel that just because the "girliest" girls in the class don't want to play their girly games with you for example, and just because you are not into wearing girly clothes etc., that doesn't make you any less of a girl. It certainly doesn't make you a boy. There is a lot of middle ground between the ultra glam feminine stereotypical examples of womanliness and the more masculine "tom boy" (to use an expression from my childhood) stereotypes of women. Most of us seem to be kind of in the middle somewhere. Some of us have girly nails or drive a girly car or have beautiful girly hair and clothes but also know how to put up a bookshelf or change a washer on a tap or are a mean kick of the footy. That's the beauty of having the freedom to pick and choose and be flexible with your identity and self perception. As you grow up you find your spot and get comfortable with yourself and learn who you are. I'm trying to explain this to Miniest but it's impossible for her to understand because she lacks the life experience to do so, but is pretty steadfast and stubborn about being called a boy. I've had to be honest; I'm sometimes tactful but unfortunately also can be pretty blunt. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck and has feathers like a duck and looks like a duck then you can pretty well guess it's a bloody duck. My child looks like a girl, sounds like a girl and to me is a girl, just not a conventionaly girly one, and it's actually this aspect of her that I love the most. She is strongly individual, rebellious, outspoken and creative, hilarious and unique and beautiful. I'm glad and proud of her being my daughter with attributes like these, and I'm not adjusting well to this new thinking, it's making me feel old and tired and a bit lost. Thankyou for reading my rant, I had to put it out there to just.. get it out.
CEO and Seagoon have such wise advice. I don't have kids but it's something I have thought about myself as an adult. I have never fit in with girls and my experience of my female biology has been pretty negative (endo, infertile etc). For a while I wondered if I were not a woman but it's really hard to unpack (for me) whether you fundamentally are not your assigned gender or if you don't really like the idea of your assigned gender.
I eventually came to some peace through some study I did related to yoga. The idea of feminine I was learning about was the fierce, fighting, transforming one. I understood that the gender stuff we have thrown at us is so empty and silly. I don't wear dresses and I don't like some aspects of my body. I'm just me. A she mostly.
I would hate to be a kid going through this and just wanting to belong. And it's bloody hard to be the parent holding space but also trying to protect and guide.
No answers just throwing some thoughts out in case it helps.
I agree, the whole concept of girls toys and boys toys is silly to me. I grew up given dolls and "girly" stuff, so the way I've been socialised has made me feel like Hot Wheels, Star Wars, and dinosaurs aren't supposed to be for me.
Also can we talk about double standards? If I don't shave my legs, I'm probably considered gross by men, but they can be hairy all over. I just don't get society sometimes.
Every dinosaur / rocket / Star Wars birthday card has the word boy on it ๐
not the ones you draw yourself ๐ฆ
The whole gendered toys thing shits me, always has. Some people just don't get it; my MIL always bought her a doll where you're supposed to style it's hair and put makeup on it, and it'd be Elder who tried to learn to do hair with it as his hair was frequently the longest in the house but he lacked the dexterity to style it himself ๐ Generally it seemed to me that girl toys were about boring stuff like playing "house" or "mummy," whereas boy toys were about building and conquering worlds and exciting stuff.
I appreciate your thoughts. The gender stuff is really silly and arbitrary.