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It's not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

This isn't even a debate, the person who made Lemmy named themselves after a genocidal warlord lmao

They made a damn fine android app though

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

the developer is obviously a bad person but Dessalines simply carried out something resembling a Nuremberg trial rather than a "genocide".

there is no historical evidence of a genocide happening in 1804. the people claiming a "white genocide" happened are white French who would obviously be biased and would want to defend their "human rights" image on the global stage.

this is akin to the binary propaganda that paints October 7 as a "genocide" and Israel's actual genocide of Palestinians as a humanitarian mission to eradicate terrorism.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (10 children)

No he didn't. They killed the guilty and the innocent making no effort to distinguish between them. The soldiers mostly escaped whereas civilians were murdered. In fact most people in Haiti had little stomach for the sort of purge of French women and children he desired to the point where it doesn't happen until he tours a particular settlement.

One can argue all day long he was revenging very legit harms but it doesn't make him less of a monster and his people ultimately agreed and murdered him.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

show us the sources where he ordered French women and children purged

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Show me the sources for where Hitler ordered the holocaust. You can. I can. But I think if you need them it might not be worth my time to bother. This genocide happened.

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

so you have jack-shit to show for it, got it. really makes your position extremely credible lmao

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

You could literally read the Wikipedia entry

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

What kind of sources do you expect from 200 years ago?

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