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The US have a monopoly on credit card payments with Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Diners Club, etc.

Even with online payment systems like PayPal, GPay, Apple Pay.

The only Canadian option that I know of is the new Shop Pay, which is owned by Shopify. (And we all know the founder CEO, Tobias Lutke is a far-right fascist traitor who loves the idea of being a 51st state.)

Right now Visa and Mastercard are controlling what stores can sell, and what services can be provided. Censoring online content, like asking Steam and Itch.io to remove certain games.

What are examples of alternatives in other countries? I know that Japan, for example, has their own independent ones, I think?

Do you think they might be refused by American companies in order to keep their monopoly?

I'd like to know what you think.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 78 points 1 week ago (26 children)

We have one. We don't use it for credit cards but we could if we wanted to. We use it for debit transactions.

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (20 children)

And it is orders of magnitude cheaper for retailers than credit cards.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (19 children)

The problem is there's no incentive to use it, as you don't get the kickback your credit card provides. I'm not sure how the CC duopoly tricked us into disallowing retailer cash/debit discounting.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Your credit card kick back has a yearly fee, and possible interest. They hope you over spend

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not all CCs have annual fees. I've got one with no fees and I still get 1% back.

[–] Grabthar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it just sucks that we are all paying about an extra 3% more on everything we buy to cover the interchange fees charged on credit transactions, even if we pay cash. It's built into all the pricing. Years back, there were places that would discount a price by 3% if you paid cash, but I haven't seen that in years. Best we can do now is get a cash back card to recover some of the loss. The annual fee cards usually get you more back, so if you use a credit card for everything you can, you might be further ahead.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

No fee is goos. With my spending that 1% would get me $200 back at end of year LOL.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the thing. I don't. I make a shit ton of extra cash with bonus points to a point where I can pay off a plane ticket when I go on vacation. That's a pretty big incentive.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Westjet had a good system before with RBC and you would get flight cash, its be nerfed since they were bought though. And now the Dollars have become Points, which means they can play with point value to adjust pricing

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Oh that sucks.

[–] fourish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mine has no fee and I pay it completely every month so no interest. It’s a good place to be. Just perks for purchasing.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still paying more for goods then we should be.

[–] Kelsenellenelvial@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Yep, it’s a shitty system, but most people’s finances are tight enough that they don’t want to give up that 1-3%(plus other perks) just on principle. Good example though of how those with the lowest income won’t qualify for a credit card but still pay the fees baked into store prices while those with the highest incomes qualify for the cards with the best befits.

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