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[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's the fact that it's not free and open use to us, just to the AI trainers. At least that's what the judges seem to be saying at this point.

[–] FatCrab@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That is not what judges have said. They've said that merely training on text is not a copyright infringement. However, companies that downloaded enormous amounts of pirated texts (i.e., stuff they did not have license to download in the first place) still infringed copyright just like anybody else. Effectively the courts have been holding that if you study material you have license to access, you aren't infringing, but if you pirate that material, even if it is merely to study it, it's still infringing. For better or worse this is basically basically how it's always been.

I have no idea what Trump is proposing. Like most republicans, but especially him, he is incapable of even approaching understanding of nuanced and technical areas of law and/or technology.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

He essentially admitted he can't train a freaking machine without free study materials. But never even thinks to extend that courtesy to actual human beings!

Keeping us dumb on purpose, while giving AI an advantage.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

However, companies that downloaded enormous amounts of pirated texts (i.e., stuff they did not have license to download in the first place) still infringed copyright just like anybody else.

I thought only the distribution part was copyright infringement.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Not in this ruling. A hoard of books or videos you didn’t pay for is still piracy. And the volume of it is a key factor when making this decision. At the scale these AI companies have been working, it’s flagrant.

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