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More than a request, I think it's a deserving clarification. We're getting mob outrage against Valve, Itch.io etc... while it's just Visa/MasterCard/Paypal laughing on everyone back.

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[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (28 children)

Well if you want to peel the onion another layer, you should really be mad at laywers and our litigious society as a whole, payment processors don't have morality, nothing in capitalism does - they are responding, just like valve, to external pressures.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (13 children)

It's specifically due to a moral panic group, Collective Shout, pressuring credit card companies to do this. Litigation isn't really part of it, just angry organized people on the Internet.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do they apply pressure though? (they threaten to sue)

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you know that or are you speculating?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Corporations do not give a single fuck about "angry, organized people", only money.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They care about bad PR. Angry, organized people can create lots of bad PR.

Look, this whole subthread is jumping to conclusions based on speculation. Maybe they are using legal strategies, but that's not obvious.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't believe that either.

I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm asking questions.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where did you ask a question in this reply chain?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not me but

How do they apply pressure though?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Copy the whole thing:

How do they apply pressure though? (they threaten to sue)

Beside the fact that it wasn't even you, they made a specific answer to that question as if it was authoritative. They were not "just asking questions", either.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're being needlessly pedantic. If it makes you feel better, I can ask the question again:

How do they apply pressure?

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I answered that above already. Good bye.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

You didn't answer anything about why they would care about PR. Is it your position that people would stop using CCs because some entity got noisy about them being used to buy pr0n?

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