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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (22 children)

He is good at saying the right things. Liberals in general aren't terrible at saying what people want to hear. When it comes to doing what they said, that's another story.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

What has he said he was going to do that he hasn't done yet?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I would argue this time Carney's comment is a worthless plattitude. You can sign anything and claim it was the best deal for Canada.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The logic of what I just said.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would argue this time Carney’s comment is a worthless plattitude. You can sign anything and claim it was the best deal for Canada.

What does a good deal for Canada look like to you?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With the US? It has nothing to do with Canada and everything to do with the US honouring a deal, let alone a fair one based on reciprocity and mutual benefit.

Trump is a bad faith actor who is bound by no court, no law or Congress. There is no deal to be had. He won't honour anything. We are wasting our time.

All we can do is reciprocate. They want Tarrifs, let's fucking GOOOOOOO! Wherever it hurts. Oil, energy, materials and critical resources. In equal measure to what they do to us. We must undo the 35 years of NAFTA integration and stand on our own two feet.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

I agree - given that trump was the one who made the last round of NAFTA (aka the USMCA cuz god forbid the US isn't the first in the title), which he has now torn up, there is no reason to expect him to honour any agreement we make now.

I'd prefer to not jump right into a pissing match with an enormous economy like the US, but I think we can stand firm on what we let them push us to do. I'd like to see any tariffs we do apply directly solely to small businesses which can shoe a demonstrable loss in revenue due to the tariffs, but given Carney/lib history, I'm guessing it'll be gobbled up by larger corps instead.

Time will tell how his capitulation on the DST goes, but so far I'm not impressed.

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